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LuvJr-88 said:
I just saw and heard this on the new's! So glad to hear that he's ok! Man, isn't this his 2nd plane crash? So thankful it wasn't worse than it was and he is alright! - S -
IpModerator said:
Well, there are conflicting reports.
Some say he is okay, others that he is in serious, but stable condition.
Either way he dodged another bullet.
He truly IS a 'cat' ... nine lives and all.
Yes, this is his second plane crash although the first was quite a bit worse than this one.
Thank God all survived and there was no fire.
LOL_Race_Pics said:
Did you see the pic of him getting out of the plane? :-0
angie88 said:
This is the last update I've seen:
“There are injuries. Possible surgery,” Roush Fenway Racing president Geoff Smith said in a text message to The Associated Press. “But he walked out of the plane.”
angie88 said:
@LOL_Race_Pics That was a scary looking picture.
LuvJr-88 said:
For real! They kept repeating that he was ok and that's all they said, I mean, they kept going to it cuz it was Breaking New's, but they said he was ok! You're right Mick, he must have 9 live's! I do remember the other crash as being worse. Well, thanks for the update and if and when you hear more, I know you'll post it...you my man are on top of thing's! Actually, as soon as it came on the new's, I was going to see if I could beat you to post it, but I was waitin on something to load...lol, but I knew that you would be right on it! You do an awesome job on keepin us all up to what all is happenin and I thank you! - S -
LOL_Race_Pics said:
Yeah it is!
LuvJr-88 said:
I haven't seen any pics., where did u c them? I can't believe they kept saying he was ok, but, that was right when it happened. I guess he was worse than reported after checking him out. This is awful! Thanx to you Angie for the update's!
LuvJr-88 said:
What's the latest update on Jack Roush's condition?
Mustang5 said:
Yep, this is his second airplane crash...first one, was in a lake in Alabama heading to Talladega. By luck, there was a former Navy SEAL which saw the whole thing and pulled him from the plane and was in serious condition then too...info from: "Growing up NASCAR" by Humpy Wheeler, pg 273
CNN HLN is showing updates this morning, but not going into too much detail
Mustang5 said:
This is the week for the Experimental Aircraft Association's (EAA) Air Show in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. This accident took place there, and there was plenty of emergency support to quickly react to the situation. Good chance that Jack most likely had some of his warbirds present at the event.
Saw the cut and the blood, which is typical from such a head injury. Pretty sure the "Serious" condition is stated due to whatever other head trauma he could have incurred...such as whip-lash or concussion
As my daddy would say (he was a pilot/instructor) any landing you can walk away from is a good landing....
Mustang5 said:
From(CNN) -- The morning after his private jet crashed at an airport in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, NASCAR team owner Jack Roush remained in serious, but stable, condition at Theda Clark Medical Center in nearby Neenah, Wisconsin, hospital spokeswoman Megan Wilcox said Wednesday.
She said Roush had been brought to Theda Clark, the area's trauma center, and it was "too early" to say how long Roush would remain in the hospital. The hospital was keeping details about Roush's injuries private "at the request of his family and racing team," Wilcox said.
Roush's racing team released a statement saying, "Dr. Kevin Wasco, the attending physician, says that Roush is in serious, but stable, condition. His injuries are not life threatening."
Roush and another passenger, identified as Brenda Strickland of Plymouth, Michigan, were injured Tuesday evening when a Beechcraft Premier jet, registered to Roush Fenway Racing LLC, was landing, according to organizers of an air show that had just ended for the day at Wittman Regional Airport in Oshkosh.
The National Transportation Safety Board and the Winnebago County Sheriff's Department confirmed the identities, the Experimental Aircraft Association said in a statement Tuesday night.
Strickland was brought to Oshkosh's Mercy Medical Center, where she remained in good condition, Mercy spokeswoman Maria Heim said Wednesday.
Video showed Roush and Strickland walking away from the crash, which occurred at 6:15 p.m.
The accident shut down the airport until its regular 8 p.m. closing time, but the airport re-opened Wednesday morning, Experimental Aircraft Association spokesman Dick Knapinski said.
The Experimental Aircraft Association, is sponsoring its popular annual air show, AirVenture 2010, at the airport. Knapinski said Roush comes every year and "does presentations as an airplane enthusiast."
Knapinski said Roush owns one of "probably fewer than 200 airworthy" World War II-era P-51 Mustang fighter planes and Roush had been scheduled to give a presentation about his vintage prop plane Tuesday. Roush had also been slated to appear at the air show Wednesday, signing autographs and talking to NASCAR fans at the Ford tent.
"Roush Fenway Racing is NASCAR's largest team operating eight motorsports teams. Four in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series with drivers Matt Kenseth, Greg Biffle, Carl Edwards and David Ragan; and four in the Nationwide Series with Edwards, Ricky Stenhouse Jr., Colin Braun, Brian Ickler, and Paul Menard," said the statement from Roush's racing team.
The NTSB is leading the investigation into the accident.
IpModerator said:
Encouraging report, and I wish all a speedy recovery.
IpModerator said:
Statement by NASCAR Chairman & CEO Brian France on Jack Roush
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (July 28, 2010) – “On behalf of the NASCAR industry our hearts and prayers go out to Jack Roush, the Roush family and Roush Fenway Racing. All of us are looking forward to a full and speedy recovery.”
mike said:
There is CNN footage of the crash on YouTube for those who haven't seen it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EODJ2M1CWyQ
IpModerator said:
Thanks Mike.
Good to see Jack walk away. He's a tough old bird.
snwbrderchic said:
Glad to hear he was able to walk away. There's usually at least one crash every year at Oshkosh, glad to hear it wasn't a fatality.
Mustang5 said:
Okay, after having looked at the film and pics....I'm speculating that one of two things occurred in this accident:
1. Landing gear failure - means it deployed, but didn't lock properly and collapsed once the aircraft made contact with the runway
2. Pilot error - meaning the pilot failed to deploy the landing gear prior to landing...you can laugh, but it happens more than most would like to admit
If you looked at the films and pics you'll quickly see there aren't any wheels down or torn off....they could easily be seen if either should have occurred. If torn off after impact, there would be damage along the mid-wing (near belly of aircraft) to the trailing edge of the wing. I'm not seeing any indication that this happened, so collapse or non-deployed landing gear seems most logical in this situation.
No matter, its good to see Jack and passenger survived the incident and CNN/NASCAR are reporting that Jack is staying in the hospital in Wisconsin another night.
IpModerator said:
I think the FR9 engines failed.
Mustang5 said:
@ IPM: you know I was going to say something like that too.....
Mustang5 said:
New information on what might possibly have happened from a witness (pilot) who was interviewed by a local news station at Oshkosh....
BLUF: this pilot believes the plane was going to slow and stalled on approach...he also states he saw 3 people leave the wreckage...so might want to take this eyewitness account with some skepticism
for more, see the interview at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC7CTywzw_8
racetrackpub said:
to the family wishing a speedy recovery for the kat in the hat, won't be nascar, get well soon!!
Mustang5 said:
From NASCAR.com, the latest update...
Roush transferred to Mayo Clinic in Minn.
Owner remains in serious but stable condition after plane crash
By NASCAR.COM
July 29, 2010
12:28 PM EDT
Jack Roush was transferred to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., Wednesday evening according to a statement released Thursday by Roush Fenway Racing.
"Following surgery Tuesday night related to the facial damage sustained in the accident, he remains in serious, but stable condition," the statement said.
IpModerator said:
Regarding Jack's facial injuries, which were no doubt caused by impacting the plane's yoke, or steering wheel if you will, here's something that's always bugged me.
In you're in a passenger car going say 55-70 mph on the ground you are required by most states to wear your seat belts ... plural. Meaning a lap belt and shoulder harness.
In an aircraft landing at 100-150 mph from an altitude a lap belt is all you have, and even at that in a private aircraft like Jack was flying who's to say that was even on?
I would like to think that Mr. Roush, knowing racing as he does, would have had the belt on, but I have to wonder if a shoulder harness might have saved him from smashing his mush into whatever it was that it impacted.
Food for thought.
Mustang5 said:
Excellent points Mick.....
I attempted to go to the Beechcraft Premier Jet site, but there aren't any pictures of the cockpit interior which demonstrate seats and harness restraints.
I've known that some such aircraft to have harness restraint belts, but I'm able to confirm this concerning this aircraft
IpModerator said:
This is the best cockpit view I could find of the Beech Premier at airliners.net, although it really doesn't show the restraints ...
IpModerator said:
Oh, and it might be time for Smilin' Jack to hire a pilot, he's not real good at flying.
Sorry, he IS good at flying, it's those pesky landings he has a problem with. Both accidents occurred on approach.
"There is an art, or rather a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." ~ Douglas Adams, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Mustang5 said:
He has Carl, he's a licensed pilot....lol
IpModerator said:
He runs into things too :)
Mustang5 said:
...the trick is to keep those he has a hankering to P.O. from being anywhere near the airport..lol
snwbrderchic said:
Hi guys! Sorry I missed out on this banter. All of the pilots I know say "flying is easy, it's landing that's hard". Usually, after a pilot has an accident, the FAA requires them to have a check ride with a CFI. Maybe that would be a good thing...
IpModerator said:
Landing an aircraft was once defined as a 'controlled crash'.
Although for the life of me I can't remember who said it. lol
snwbrderchic said:
LOL! Yeah, that seems accurate!